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A/B/U print sheets
« on: Mar 21st, 2005, 2:23am » |
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Can anyone confirm if the Alpha print sheets were 10x10, 10x11, or 11x11
Also, Beta and Unlimited
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #1 on: Mar 21st, 2005, 2:30am » |
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How would you be able to tell the difference between an alpha and beta sheet without the corners to guide you?
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #2 on: Mar 21st, 2005, 2:36am » |
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on Mar 21st, 2005, 2:30am, MagicRumorMill wrote:
| How would you be able to tell the difference between an alpha and beta sheet without the corners to guide you? |
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I would imagine they are marked around the edges. Additionally, there are differences (Alpha had less varieties of lands, one rare and one common were left out, some art is minorly different)
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #3 on: Mar 21st, 2005, 2:44am » |
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All sets in question have been printed on 11x11 sheets. WotC started to switch to 10x11 sheets with Alliances.
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #4 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 3:51am » |
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thanks Ralph.
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #5 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 4:12am » |
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someone please double check this math, but if it is correct, here are the probabilities of pulling a basic land in any given slot in either Alpha or Beta...
basic land as…
ALPHA BOOSTER --- 178.51 total basic lands
rare---4.132%
avg of 1.49 per box
unc---21.488%
avg of 23.21 per box
com---38.843%
avg of 153.82 per box
ALPHA STARTER --- 203.55 total basic lands
rare---4.132%
avg of 0.83 per box
unc---21.488%
avg of 27.93 per box
com---38.843%
avg of 174.79 per box
BETA BOOSTER --- 174.94 total basic lands
rare---3.306%
avg of 1.19 per box
unc---21.488%
avg of 23.21 per box
com---38.017%
avg of 150.55 per box
BETA STARTER --- 199.67 total basic lands
rare---3.306%
avg of 0.66 per box
unc---21.488%
avg of 27.93 per box
com---38.017%
avg of 171.07 per box
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #6 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 8:38am » |
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what would wotc do if someone won the pro tour with an oversized deck? When they print the championship deck it would screw em up. Muahahaha 
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #7 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 3:43pm » |
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To tell the difference between Alpha and Beta sheets, for the most part you would just look for the misprints that were fixed in Beta, plus the addition of more lands..
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #8 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 5:45pm » |
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on Mar 22nd, 2005, 3:43pm, Gryfalia wrote:
To tell the difference between Alpha and Beta sheets, for the most part you would just look for the misprints that were fixed in Beta, plus the addition of more lands..
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OMG!!! I did not even think of that. Funny. Thanks.
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #9 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 5:55pm » |
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on Mar 21st, 2005, 2:36am, Celebrindor wrote:
I would imagine they are marked around the edges. Additionally, there are differences (Alpha had less varieties of lands, one rare and one common were left out, some art is minorly different) |
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #10 on: Mar 22nd, 2005, 5:58pm » |
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on Mar 22nd, 2005, 5:55pm, Celebrindor wrote:
Thanks to you too buddy. 
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #11 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 2:22am » |
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on Mar 21st, 2005, 2:30am, MagicRumorMill wrote:
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look for volcanic island and cop black
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #12 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 2:54am » |
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on Apr 5th, 2005, 2:22am, coolio wrote:
look for volcanic island and cop black
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Thanks. Those two take care of the rare and common sheets, now what about the uncommon sheet? Is there a card missing there?
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #13 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 3:02am » |
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First text difference I found was in Basalt Monolith:
Alpha:
Tap to add 3 colorless mana to your mana pool. Does not untap as normal during untap phase, but can be untapped at any time for 3 mana. Tapping this artifact can be played as an interrupt.
Beta:
Tap to add 3 colorless mana to your mana pool. Does not untap as normal during untap phase; spend {3} to untap. Tapping this artifact can be played as an interrupt.
Edit: Otherwise, if you see one of these lands, it's Beta:
http://magiccards.info/be/en/291/
http://magiccards.info/be/en/285/
http://magiccards.info/be/en/297/
http://magiccards.info/be/en/288/
http://magiccards.info/be/en/282/
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Re: A/B/U print sheets
« Reply #14 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 3:53am » |
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on Apr 5th, 2005, 2:54am, MagicRumorMill wrote:
Thanks. Those two take care of the rare and common sheets, now what about the uncommon sheet? Is there a card missing there?
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yer jerkoff response warrants this..
I will use COMMON sense and assume they were kept together (seriously, if you had both sets, you'd play mix and match?)
but you could go with what gryf said and scan for fixed misprints..
some of us here use brainpower..  marvel idea isnt it?
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