 Author |
Topic: The jury has reached a verdict..... (Read 223 times) |
|
AXIOS
Senior Member
CREDENDO VIDES!!
 
Gender: 
Posts: 2222
|
 |
The jury has reached a verdict.....
« on: Jun 13th, 2005, 11:51pm » |
 Quote  Modify |
Michael Jackson is NOT guilty on all ten charges.
|
|
 IP Logged |
LOVES BIGFATPIMPY!!!!!!!!!
I WANT LOTS OF BOG WRAITHS, PLZ DONATE TO THIS POOR NETHERLANDI
|
|
|
mintcollector
Senior Member
Expert Champion
Gender:
Posts: 1541
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #1 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 12:03am » |
Quote Modify |
Just proves with money you can kill someone (OJ) or molest children and publically admit it and be acquitted of any wrong doing. What I will find moronic is if any parent lets their child near Michael the Molester. They should be shot for gene pool cleansing. I hope his legal fees cost him enough that with his finanicial woes was already facing, forces him to sell his kiddie porn palace called Neverland.
One word, unbelievable!
|
|
IP Logged |
See my current needs here: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mintcollector/
|
|
|
silver.paladin
Senior Member
All regular and special Red/Land cards
Gender:
Posts: 1287
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #2 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 12:55am » |
Quote Modify |
I agree. Unbelieveable. How could that 'freak' get away with that. I used to think Michael was a very good performer, but lost that notion a few years ago.
Money can buy you anything afterall - clothes, fans, friends and juries. Maybe with luck, a bus will ..... (I won't say that part out loud).
I don't know if that freak bought the jury or not, but with the US legal system, I sure would not doubt it.
But, on the flip side - all those various mass murderers have large fan followings. That says enough right there. Not just the individual that is the freak - the people are too.
|
|
IP Logged |
Procrastination is an art. And I am an artist.
|
|
|
ANALOG_KID
Junior Member
Begin the day with a friendly voice.......
Posts: 95
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #4 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 7:47am » |
Quote Modify |
Now he's getting that multi-million dollar bail money back, M.J. can finally get down to Florida for those golf lessons from O.J.
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
mintcollector
Senior Member
Expert Champion
Gender:
Posts: 1541
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #5 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 2:35pm » |
Quote Modify |
on Jun 14th, 2005, 7:13am, dragsamou wrote:
From My Homemade cards Collection 
http://www.monphotoservice.com/membre/album/index.cfm?alb_id=684076& cfid=5937555&cftoken=90291844 |
|
funny..but you should have a wine glass for the set logo.
|
|
IP Logged |
See my current needs here: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mintcollector/
|
|
|
ende73
Full Member
Gender:
Posts: 417
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #6 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 2:43pm » |
Quote Modify |
on Jun 14th, 2005, 7:13am, dragsamou wrote:
From My Homemade cards Collection
http://www.monphotoservice.com/membre/album/index.cfm?alb_id=684076& cfid=5937555&cftoken=90291844 |
|
Nice 
Is it available physically ?
|
|
IP Logged |
|
|
|
hammr7
Moderator
Full Member
Hero in my own mind!
Gender:
Posts: 460
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #8 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 5:40pm » |
Quote Modify |
Michael Jackson is definitely weird, and seems to have the emotional maturity of a 15 year old. I stayed away from the so-called "news" and publicity surrounding the case (like I did when the OJ trial dominated American TV and culture), because 99% of it was self-righteous opinion from whomever was speaking. I tried to stick to actual court testimony rather than the hordes of media and analysts trying to sensationalize every aspect of the case (for there own fame and profit). Based on court testimony, and on the juror's ultimate decisions, it became abundantly clear that American justice is alive and well.
No one in the jury thought Michael Jackson was perfect, and it seems that no one in the jury was starstruck by him. In fact, some were apparantly predisposed to find him guilty if possible. Older American Whites (the primary makeup of the jury) are, in general, far less influenced by Jackson's "fame" than most other demographic groups (including younger whites, most blacks, europeans, etc.)
What the jury said, explicitly, is that Michael Jackson was innocent until proven guilty. And they said that the prosecutors did not provide sufficient evidence that could allow them to determine Jackson guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In fact, they stated in post deliberation interviews that the prosecution didn't even come close. And this, to me, was appropriate, given how little coherent testimony supported the prosecution's case. For anyone who paid attention to what was going on inside the courtroom (rather than the media frenzy outside), the prosecution promised evidence and testimony that simply didn't materialize. Ultimately, the prosecutions case rested on the accuser, who acknowledged being a perjuror, and was totaly inconsistant on the most crucial aspects of his claim. Combined with an implausible prosecution timeline for the alleged improprieties, and no believable support for the accusations (the accuser's mother is a real piece of work), the jury had no foundation to base a guilty verdict on any of the charges.
And this is the way the American justice system is supposed to work. It doesn't mean that Michael Jackson is actually innocent, or actually guilty. Perhaps we will never know. The US system tries to be fair, but if there is any bias, that bias goes in favor of the accused. From a statistics perspective, it is set up to allow some type 1 errors (the guilty going free) so as to minimize type 2 errors (the innocent being imprisoned). It isn't perfect, but that is the way the system was constructed. Based upon the specifics of the case, the jury reacted in the only way they could.
If you believe that Jackson is guilty, blame the prosecutors office. They literally spent millions bringing this case to trial. If Jackson was truly guilty, then it seems that their prosecutorial zeal (many called it a personal vendetta) got in the way of assembling a more compelling case. It seemed their biggest hope for a guilty plea was innuendo rather that evidence and testimony. They did manage to further sulley Jacksons reputation, and they certainly mamged to cost him a lot of money. They probably perceive these elements as moral victories, slight as they may be.
|
|
IP Logged |
Where have all the Magic sticker sets gone?
|
|
|
mintcollector
Senior Member
Expert Champion
Gender:
Posts: 1541
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #9 on: Jun 14th, 2005, 7:29pm » |
Quote Modify |
A couple distubring points I want to quickly address about Molestor Michael.
First off he has admitted to sleeping with his 'guests' all of whom are little boys (counts 2-6).
Secondly he is on record for given the 'guests' Jesus Juice, which has to be wine...an alcoholic beverage to minors (counts 7-10).
Besides the corroborating evidence of many witnesses, including past staff, stating they had seen acts of felaticio performed by Molestor Michael on his guests and showering with the boys, this is obviously not enough to convict the freak.
I guess it would take some Jackson Juice to have to be dripping out of his guests for there to be enough proof.
Neverland ranch is just a more grandious version of child molestor's home being found with childrens toys strewn across their lawn. It is all just a ploy to lure the children to them and make them accessible for their twisted perversions.
Can anyone here honestly state that they would be comfortable with having a 46 year old man sleeping with their child, regardless of the sex of the child? There can be no other reason than on some level, sexually confusion being present. I mean what would you do if your child was on a sleepover somewhere and you found out that the middle aged father had your child in bed with them, but 'nothing happened' and the father saw it as 'a beautful thing'. I'd still beat the ^&%^#$### out of him. What a wacko sicko freak Jackson is! Another disturbing question is why is it always little boys in his bed? If there is no underlying intentions, why was there only boys in his bed?
The court system is devised in such a way that someone should not be found guilty if there is reasonable doubt. This does mean if there is any doubt, but that the doubt must be without reason, or unreasonable. How is it not within reason that was he is doing is wrong? How is it unreasonable that Jesus Juice can be anything else but wine? All the courts gave him was the greenlight to continue his perverse nature.
Should anytihng ever happen to some child in the future, there will be many to blaim. First the parents that let their child near the freak. All the jurors who let this freak walk, and of course the fream himself for which I can oln y wish he will be damned for all of eternity.
|
|
IP Logged |
See my current needs here: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mintcollector/
|
|
|
Celebrindor
Senior Member
    
Gender:
Posts: 1887
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #10 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 1:14am » |
Quote Modify |
mintcollector: I agree with the points you made - Jackson is a freak, and his actions look very suspicious. hammr7 is right though - the jurors must look at only the evidence presented to them, and come to a decision free from media bias and assumption.
|
|
IP Logged |
As of the 21st, i've been here for 1 year! yay!
|
|
|
bigfatkitty
Senior Member
WARNING: Bites the hand that feeds him!
Gender:
Posts: 1257
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #11 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 4:06am » |
Quote Modify |
It just goes to show you a rich white woman can't be convicted for anything but insider trading.
|
|
IP Logged |
Member of Dragsamou's 'Dirty Frenchie' Fan Club.
Worshiped by all Netherlandians.
Nemesis of MCM
Confused by MRM
If you have a 3-word name and the 1st and last words start with an 'M', go away.
|
|
|
Celebrindor
Senior Member
Gender:
Posts: 1887
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #12 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 5:43am » |
Quote Modify |
on Jun 15th, 2005, 4:06am, bigfatkitty wrote:
| It just goes to show you a rich white woman can't be convicted for anything but insider trading. |
|
Judging from the actual information, not the media hype, I still think she was innocent.
|
|
IP Logged |
As of the 21st, i've been here for 1 year! yay!
|
|
|
silver.paladin
Senior Member
All regular and special Red/Land cards
Gender:
Posts: 1287
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #13 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 6:01am » |
Quote Modify |
on Jun 15th, 2005, 4:06am, bigfatkitty wrote:
| It just goes to show you a rich white woman can't be convicted for anything but insider trading. |
|
Not quite true! Have you read about that attractive blonde Aussie gal in Indonesia that has been convicted of trafficking? It appears the Aussie public is outraged that an attractive woman like her should be found guilty for this crime.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/09/news/letter.php
|
|
IP Logged |
Procrastination is an art. And I am an artist.
|
|
|
mintcollector
Senior Member
Expert Champion
Gender:
Posts: 1541
|
|
Re: The jury has reached a verdict.....
« Reply #14 on: Jun 15th, 2005, 2:06pm » |
Quote Modify |
on Jun 15th, 2005, 1:14am, Celebrindor wrote:
| mintcollector: I agree with the points you made - Jackson is a freak, and his actions look very suspicious. hammr7 is right though - the jurors must look at only the evidence presented to them, and come to a decision free from media bias and assumption. |
|
I am not opposed to that, but then reasonable doubt has to be established. His own testimony taped in the interviews was enough 'evidence' to put Wacko Jacko away for a very long time in my book. Please note that these interviews were admitted by the prosecution as evidence. By this alone reasonable doubt could not be established and the burden of proof was easily satisfied.
|
|
IP Logged |
See my current needs here: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mintcollector/
|
|
|
|
Magic Library
Home
Help
Search
Login
Register
Notification
Reply
Send Topic
Print