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(Message started by: Erl00 on Mar 4th, 2004, 7:53pm)

Title: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Erl00 on Mar 4th, 2004, 7:53pm

Hello everyone,

After several years of assessments (positive or negative) by people ready to swear on the head of their children that they knew the truth, I think we finally have a serious proof that, indeed, Portal Second Age has really been printed in Portuguese.

This proof has been brought by Mr.C, recently registered on this site. Thank you very much!!

The proof (see below), is a scan of Portuguese Portal Second Age card that should not be included in the Demogame Portal Second Age booster: Path of Peace

Inca911, Dragsamou and myself had offered months ago a reward on MOTL to anyone being able to definitely proove the existence of this set.
Unless anyone has something to say about this proof, I think it's time to transform our nice words into actions and to contact Mr.C.

Enjoy the scan:
http://www.angelfire.com/magic/erl00/PROOF.jpg

Cool a news :)
Not cool, another pack to look for :(

:)
Eric.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Tha_Gunslinga on Mar 4th, 2004, 7:58pm

Sweet!  Nice find, Mr. C.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by sylvanstu on Mar 4th, 2004, 10:37pm

Please post what Mr. C's reward was. just curious ;D
Way to go Mr. C  

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Ralph Herold on Mar 4th, 2004, 11:57pm

Excellent!!! Thank you Erl00 for investigating, and thank you Mr.C for solving this riddle. Now there is still the question about the existence of a Portuguese Portal set (although I am almost certain that it has not been produced).

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by dragsamou on Mar 5th, 2004, 8:51am

Hi Members.
Nice discovery,but I'm still wondering if a Full Set exists  ???
At any rate the Demo Booster Portal Second Age has
exactely the same cards as the others Demo Boosters.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Erl00 on Mar 5th, 2004, 11:20am


on 03/05/04 at 08:51:42, dragsamou wrote:
Hi Members.
Nice discovery,but I'm still wondering if a Full Set exists  ???
At any rate the Demo Booster Portal Second Age has
exactely the same cards as the others Demo Boosters.

Indeed, Mr.C missed a bit his scan. On the left part of it, you can see the rulesheet of a Portuguese Demogame Portal Second Age Booster Pack (which is, by the way, the longest name ever for a booster pack).

He should have scanned the other side of the rulesheet on which is written the list of the cards included in the demogame pack to prove that Path of Peace is not there.

This brings credits to the fact that a full set must exist or where the hell would this Path of Peace come from??


@Sylvanstu: On MOTL I had offer a reward, in cash or cards for an amount of around $10. Dragsamou and Inca had made offers too.


on 03/05/04 at 08:51:42, Ralph Herold wrote:
Excellent!!! Thank you Erl00 for investigating, and thank you Mr.C for solving this riddle. Now there is still the question about the existence of a Portuguese Portal set (although I am almost certain that it has not been produced).

I just recieved this morning a response to an e-mail sent in September to WotC customer service!!

Quote:
That I know of, Portal has not been printed in Portuguese


It's not an absolutely definitive answer, but I'm more and more convinced that Portal has not been printed in Portuguese.

:)
Eric.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by dragsamou on Mar 5th, 2004, 11:35am


on 03/05/04 at 11:20:17, Erl00 wrote:
Indeed, Mr.C missed a bit his scan. On the left part of it, you can see the rulesheet of a Portuguese Demogame Portal Second Age Booster Pack (which is, by the way, the longest name ever for a booster pack).

He should have scanned the other side of the rulesheet on which is written the list of the cards included in the demogame pack to prove that Path of Peace is not there.

This brings credits to the fact that a full set must exist or where the hell would this Path of Peace come from??

Hi Eric.
The Full list is there,that's why I say that the Demo Cards in The Portuguese Booster are the same as the others  ;)
Shame that WOTC did not provide you an answer regarding Portal Second Age.
As for the Path of Peace,why only one card,has been founded and is it Real  ???
As for me the Mystery is not solved at all,but I do believe
that with the Scan that we have,we may be able to have more infos.I will ask a Portuguese friend to put a Post on Devir Brazil and Portugal Forum,to collect more infos.For Portal 1,I do believe the case is solved  :)

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Mr.C on Mar 5th, 2004, 5:05pm

well, i happen to have other cards that i may be able to scan... just ask. Also, if Erl00 wants the front and back scans of the rulesheet, i can get them.

As for portal 1, i'm almos 100% certain it has NEVER been printed in portuguese, since i never saw a portuguese portal 1 card.

I'll try and post more scans later.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by victorcamp on Mar 5th, 2004, 5:10pm

Off-Topic: Mr. C, are you aware that your avatar image does not show up?

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by mintcollector on Mar 5th, 2004, 5:28pm


on 03/05/04 at 17:10:47, victorcamp wrote:
Off-Topic: Mr. C, are you aware that your avatar image does not show up?


If you right click on his avatar and select view it shows up afterwards.  I think the web host he is using is similar to US-based free web servers that prevent direct linking via a URL.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Erl00 on Mar 5th, 2004, 5:34pm


on 03/05/04 at 17:05:28, Mr.C wrote:
Also, if Erl00 wants the front and back scans of the rulesheet, i can get them.


My mistake, I didn't read the rulesheet well, sorry ;D

Please answer my e-mail for our trade ;)
Regards,
Eric.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by dragsamou on May 6th, 2004, 2:36pm

Hi Members.
As I received 2 Boosters Demo Portal Second Age Portuguese WOC2380,Copyright Date 1993-2000,I decided to open one of them,to finally get the missing Portal Tip Card in Portuguese,and the result is a Filler Card instead of the "Uma carta de sugestoes" mentioned on the back of the Booster  :o
Meaning that except if we have the same situation as the German Demo Booster:

Quote:
For unknown reasons, there are two versions of the German Portal Second Age Demogame booster in existance, one featuring a copyright date of 1998 and the other one featuring a copyright date of 2000 on the booster. Only the 1998 version contains a Portal Second Age tip card, the other one has a filler card in its place

The Portuguese Tip Card won't exist.Now,the last 2 eventual Tip Cards missing on Magic Rarities will be the Japanese and Spanish,but the Existance of these 2 Demo Boosters is still a Mystery has none has been founded yet  :o
PS:Eric what's the WOC Number of your Portuguese Demo Booster?


Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Ralph Herold on May 9th, 2004, 3:57am

dragsamou: A very disturbing discovery. Thank you for your research.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Erl00 on May 9th, 2004, 4:40pm


on 05/06/04 at 14:36:41, dragsamou wrote:
PS:Eric what's the WOC Number of your Portuguese Demo Booster


WOC23080, no bar code.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by dragsamou on May 9th, 2004, 5:14pm


on 05/09/04 at 16:40:53, Erl00 wrote:
WOC23080, no bar code.

Hi Eric.
Thanks.I do believe that there's Only one Version of the Portuguese Demo Booster,meaning no Portuguese Top Card  :( but an extra Source for the Black Border/B.B Filler Card  ;)

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Ralph Herold on May 9th, 2004, 5:45pm

dragsamou: I hope you are correct. Then the case could be closed. Maybe the WOC number will provide some hints about the likelyhood of an alternate Portuguese Portal Second Age Demogame booster?

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by dragsamou on May 9th, 2004, 6:09pm


on 05/09/04 at 17:45:38, Ralph Herold wrote:
dragsamou: I hope you are correct. Then the case could be closed. Maybe the WOC number will provide some hints about the likelyhood of an alternate Portuguese Portal Second Age Demogame booster?

Hi Ralph.
It was already a Trauma to open that Sealed Demo Portuguese Demo Booster that I look for over 3 Years  :'(
I will not support the Existance of another Demo Portuguese Booster  :P
If there's a Number to look for it's probably the WOC Number 2378.But from my sources,the Only Booster
available apparently is the WOC2380.At any rate,just before,I opened the Booster,I was thinking to myself,what about if it's a Filler Card :( or a Misprint one like the French One  :)...Next Time I win  ;D

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by Erl00 on May 9th, 2004, 7:50pm

Alexis,

You seem to constantly forget a 0, it's 23080, not 2380.

Title: Re: Existance: Portuguese Portal Second Age
Post by dragsamou on May 9th, 2004, 9:04pm


on 05/09/04 at 19:50:41, Erl00 wrote:
Alexis,

You seem to constantly forget a 0, it's 23080, not 2380.

Hi Dad  ;)
Don't know why,but,I took them off from my Post  ::)



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