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Title: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on May 17th, 2004, 12:21am Wow, these look nice. I most especially like the new Elemental. That was done really good. I do have a couple questions though, if anyone can answer. 1) What are the "M" and "P" tokens? 2) On the Goblin, Soldier and Zombie tokens, it appears as if the copywrite date has been double imprinted. Is it actually a double imprint or is just the way the cards are scanned. And if it is a double imprint, is there some kind of special reasoning behind it. Be interesting to know. Thanks (and again, wow, those are nice, especially the Elemental!!!) edit: oops, just read the Special Promotion offer over again, and realize that these are/may not be the finished product, so that probably answers my double imprint question well enough ;) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Ralph Herold on May 17th, 2004, 12:26am M is a Myr Token, P is a Pentive Token. The images are not scans but image files from Arai Jin's computer. Real scans of the cards will follow as soon as I have them. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on May 17th, 2004, 1:13am Just sent an email asking for 10 sets :). Hoping they can be ordered so that I can guarantee to get one artist sketch and one each of the autographed ones. For members who haven't seen the promotion, check out http://magiclibrary.net/rarities-promotion.html. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Ralph Herold on May 17th, 2004, 2:02am motorcitymagic: From what Jim told me, you can not see which card is autographed from outside of the pack. With 10 packs, you should be able to trade a set together, though :) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by fvzappa on May 17th, 2004, 3:39am Just sent Jim a request for 3 of them. They look great. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by rg on May 17th, 2004, 7:59am Wow! Thanks to Jim & Arai Jiin (and Ralph of cause) for making this exclusive promotion to us members! I just send Jimm my order ;D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dragsamou on May 17th, 2004, 8:27am :-X ;) :D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on May 17th, 2004, 12:26pm What a wonderful thing to wake up to! ;D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by tah on May 17th, 2004, 12:40pm So there will be one set with sketches, 10 sets with autograph and 89 "clean" sets. Just wonder how hard it would be to collect the "Sketch set" ;D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by sanctuary on May 17th, 2004, 4:06pm Another lovely angel to add to the collective! :) I wish all surprises were this nice. Many thanks to all those involved in the production of this set... this has really made my day :D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by TerraFrost on May 17th, 2004, 9:01pm probably not all that hard - just buy the remaining 80 or so sets (how many is remaining is just a guess) from gamingjim, and trade autographs as necessary to complete the sketch set, heh :) of course, i don't have that kind of money, myself, heh :) also, on a side-note... i think it'd be uber cool of WotC printed rarities just for us, too, heh :) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on May 17th, 2004, 10:35pm on 05/17/04 at 21:01:34, TerraFrost wrote:
Become a certified judge, and they do! :D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by hammr7 on May 17th, 2004, 11:53pm on 05/17/04 at 12:26:37, bigfatkitty wrote:
I agree completely! Hopefully my late waking won't cause problems 8) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on May 18th, 2004, 12:29am It would be nice to see a count of what Jim's orders are up to. I haven't yet received confirmation for my three set order. ;D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Thrond on May 18th, 2004, 12:33am I would definitively love to have one of these... |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dry_cereal on May 18th, 2004, 5:39am I emailed him. Is that the wrong way to post an order? |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by gamingjim on May 18th, 2004, 7:18am Hi All I should have answered every ones email. If I have not answered you email please re send it. WE ARE GETTING VERY VERY LOW ON SETS LES THEN 24 SETS LEFT. I start Shipping tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dragsamou on May 18th, 2004, 8:10am on 05/18/04 at 07:18:59, gamingjim wrote:
Hi Jim. Did you get mine?Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by gamingjim on May 18th, 2004, 9:23am To tell if I answered your email. you will have this from me "Please paypal to [email protected]. I will ship the day I get paid.Please give me your shipping address. thanks JIM" |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on May 18th, 2004, 3:51pm on 05/18/04 at 09:23:25, gamingjim wrote:
I will be paying soon as I get home. Can't answer my home email from work! ;) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on May 18th, 2004, 11:10pm SOLD OUT! The front page says it all. I hope everyone was able to get some. :( |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by TerraFrost on May 18th, 2004, 11:22pm i don't know if i was able to get some or not... i paid earlier this morning, after asking for some the day before. i guess i'll get an email enlighting me as to the status of my order, soon enough, though... |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on May 19th, 2004, 12:22am I just made my payment now also. I definitely look forward to these cards. Especially the Elemental (did I say that before yet!! ;D) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by flatmatt on May 19th, 2004, 12:42am They look really nice, especially the elementals and the demon. Could use more bears, though. ;) Using "P" and "M" for Pentavite and Myr is pretty clever if it's used in the final product as well. Too bad they're so expensive. :( |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Muldoon on May 19th, 2004, 1:08am on 05/19/04 at 00:42:15, flatmatt wrote:
Nothing like what they'll be on eBay ;) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on May 19th, 2004, 3:23am I'm not saying its necessarily a good idea to post this information right away, but I think that everyone who opens packs should record the pack number, what the order of the tokens was in, and which one had a signature (and/or sketch). This information could be useful. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Tenacious_Dyl on May 19th, 2004, 3:32am Ditto, love to have one, but they sold out and too much money. Thanks to all involved (jim, arai, ralph, and all!) this is a really good, and very cool idea!!!! :) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by rick21n on May 19th, 2004, 4:05pm To anyone who ordered multiple sets. I am interested in a complete set and never noticed the offer. All I really want is the normal set so if anybody bought multiple sets just for the special stuff I would love to get the "normal" token set from you. Just drop me a PM. - Rick21n |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Ralph Herold on May 19th, 2004, 4:46pm All the orders are processed, and the tokens will ship within the next few days. Here is a picture of Jim's seven years old daughter Kaitlyn who has been picking the packs randomly for all of us :) http://magiclibrary.net/temp/kaitlyn.jpg |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dry_cereal on May 19th, 2004, 5:46pm does she accept bribes? I have a bunch of foil teletubby tokens she can have if I "find" a sketch card 8) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by hammr7 on May 19th, 2004, 6:20pm on 05/19/04 at 03:23:36, motorcitymagic wrote:
Depending upon how many tokens there are, beyond our 100 packs, we could set up a registry of which pack # cards come from. This info could be communicated and updated when tokens were sold. It would allow us to monitor where all the tokens are, which would severely reduce the possibility of fraud. If there are thousands of packs we might have problems due to the volume. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Ralph Herold on May 19th, 2004, 6:48pm hammr7: There are only 100 sets in existance (plus one open set for display purposes), and they have all been ordered by members and supporters of this website. I do not understand your suspicion regarding fraud. Please elaborate. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by mintcollector on May 19th, 2004, 7:10pm on 05/19/04 at 18:48:55, Ralph Herold wrote:
hammr7 has a good point. Eventually someone will start making fakes. They have done so in the past, why wouldn't it continue in the future? While hammr7's idea is noble, I fear that people will not track where the product goes to. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by AXIOS on May 19th, 2004, 7:15pm question: 1 pack contains 10 tokens. i suppose this means that the pack iordered contains all 10 different tokens Angel Beast demon Elemental Insect Goblin M P Soldier and zombie? |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Ralph Herold on May 19th, 2004, 7:17pm mintcollector: Note that the unpermitted public presentation of the ownership of all the cards is a violation of privacy rights. I can tell you in front that not all members will be willing to support this project. AXIOS: Yes, each pack contains one of each token card. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dragsamou on May 19th, 2004, 7:22pm Hi Members. I have thought Immediately at the Fakes who will definately appear as Only 100 Sets Exist.The fact that only Magic Rarities Members will have them,and that Ralph and Jim have the Full list of the Members who get them and the Number of sets that they bought,is for me a Serious Proof of Authenticity.A Magic Rarities Holo with a Number will have been a Great idea also :) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by TerraFrost on May 19th, 2004, 8:45pm perhapes a pedigree of sorts could be established, as well... ie. if someone who's not a magicrarities member has one of these, they should be able to trace it back, eventually, to someone who was a magicrarities member. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by hammr7 on May 19th, 2004, 8:49pm Forgive my ignorance. I know that most of the earlier runs of Minagishi Tokens were fairly limited. I wasn't sure if the 100 sets allocated to the Rarities forum comprised the entire production of 10th series tokens, or just the entire allotment of packages of tokens containing autographs and / or sketches. That was the reason why my earlier post was nebulous on tracking, and the numbers involved. As for concerns regarding fraud, we have all seen what has happened with recent Minagishi sets. Think of a system where every token was tracked to its original pack (example: "pack 23 goblin token" - for 1,000 cards in 3 flavors, this would be easy), and that information was transfered to the new owner, and also to the registry, when a token was sold or traded. The system would be almost as good as a PSA number, and would make it very difficult on counterfeiters. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Ralph Herold on May 19th, 2004, 10:15pm hammr7: I now understand your concern and your idea to solve it, but as I said before, not everyone will support this. Nonetheless, you and anybody else are welcome to manage this list here in the forum. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Thrond on May 20th, 2004, 8:29pm My point is that lot of people here will keep for themselves at least one sealed pack. I don't know yet how these tokens are packed, but for me, a sealed pack is a very good proof of authenticity. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by TerraFrost on May 20th, 2004, 8:41pm one problem with a sealed pack, however, is that you'll have no way of knowing whether or not that pack has an artist sketch, or what the autographed card is... |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Thrond on May 20th, 2004, 8:44pm Yeah, but lot of people here aren't especially looking for a sketch... having one of these pack, even unopened, is having a true magic Rarities. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on May 20th, 2004, 9:01pm on 05/20/04 at 20:41:10, TerraFrost wrote:
Have you seen this picture - http://magiclibrary.net/temp/kaitlyn.jpg. Those packs don't look very sophisticated. Actually they only look like simple "team bags", oversized sleeves with a large flap on the top that seals. Have to see what they look like when they arrive. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by gamingjim on May 20th, 2004, 10:47pm on 05/20/04 at 21:01:43, motorcitymagic wrote:
Yes there are in team bags |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on May 20th, 2004, 11:39pm on 05/20/04 at 20:29:14, Thrond wrote:
Since they are just in team bags, the concept of a "sealed pack" doesn't really apply to them. This is another very good reason for people to keep careful inventory of what is contained in each pack number, for future reference if its needed. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dry_cereal on May 20th, 2004, 11:57pm I'll just write my name and address on them in case they ever get lost. That way I know mine are real. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on Jun 4th, 2004, 3:03pm on 05/17/04 at 01:13:46, motorcitymagic wrote:
on 05/17/04 at 02:02:19, Ralph Herold wrote:
Anyone have a comment about this? If you've gotten your packs, you can plainly see that the top card has a signature. 1. Why weren't we all allowed to pick which signed tokens we received? 2. Why wasn't it possible to send one of each signed token for those that bought 10 packs? I was told something very similar by Jim in email, and it doesn't seem very truthful. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Muldoon on Jun 4th, 2004, 3:47pm Motorcitymagic: 1: If everyone could chose, not everyone would get what they wanted, as some tokens obviously are more popular than others. If someone got all tokens he wanted, and you got totally different ones due to there not being enough to please everyone's requests, you'd probably be less happy ;) 2: Didn't Jim's daughter randomly pick the packs for everyone? :P I think she did, and if she did, there's no way any sketch or certain autographed ones could be guaranteed. I think this was done in a great way, I don't see why there's this negative energy arising everywhere. I didn't buy any myself, but I think it was a great thing Jim did, and in my opinion it could hardly have been done more fair than it was. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by hammr7 on Jun 4th, 2004, 3:51pm Motorcitymagic, It sounds to me like you are complaining about the way the tokens were distributed. As someone who bought ten sets and got no sketches, I have the follow comments: 1. It was always my impression that the token distribution would be random. If buyers got to choose their "signed" card it would be a logistical nightmare. What if I was the first buyer, and said I wanted all 10 packs with signed Angels? To give me these sets would guarantee a sketch card, and keep everyone from ever having a full signed set, unless I felt like dealing. 2. You seem to be complaining about there not being a guarantee that buying 10 sets got buyers a sketch card, yet you were the buyer that (apparantly) benefited the most by the random offering, since I see you as the owner of three sketch cards. I did not get any sketch cards. If you feel so strongly about this issue, I will be glad to trade you a non-sketch autographed card that you need for one of your "extra" sketch cards. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on Jun 4th, 2004, 4:23pm Thank you MCM, for your continuous complaining here. The deal was stated at the very beginning how things were organized, and how it would be done. If you did not like it, you should not have participated. It was already stated here quite clearly by the event organizer that if all that is going to happen is complaints, then he would not do that again. SO PLEASE - STOP TRYING TO RUIN FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS! |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Ralph Herold on Jun 4th, 2004, 4:34pm motorcitymagic: As you know, I have received my personal sets yesterday, and I agree, you can see which card is autographed. I did not know that, though. Sorry for spreading inaccurate information. Nonethess, this does not change my view how the sale should have taken place but strenghtens it. A random distribution is the only fair way to prevent people from quickly ordering the more desireable signed tokens. We already had complaints that the tokens sold to fast and were spread among too few members. Giving everybody the choice to select their favourite autographed set of tokens would have been even worse. I know, your point is that only the members who ordered 10 packs would be sent a complete set, but in practice, once you start to assign specific packs to specific buyers, it is very hard to draw a line where to stop, and neither Jim nor I wanted to do this. Besides, Jim already did us all a favor by securing the whole print run of these tokens for us and reselling them for a fair price - he could have made much money with them if he wanted to. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by AXIOS on Jun 4th, 2004, 4:47pm on 06/04/04 at 16:23:50, silver.paladin wrote:
AMEN!!! maybe jin should have done NO sketches and sigs for mcm's cause! |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on Jun 4th, 2004, 5:10pm Shaun, The constant complaining will only insure opportunities like this won't happen in the future. This was done randomly as posted. Be happy you were able to get what you got and there were no limits on packs. You possess 10% of the total amount of tokens and should be more than happy. If you want other signature tokens, do like Dragmasou and try to trade for them. Quit whining. And people need to realize that fakes are always a possibility. BFK |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by normalbrains on Jun 4th, 2004, 6:05pm i complained at first about the way in which the set were sold, and even made a post about it to vent, but i find mcm's constant complaining and protectiveness over his unique (..my preciousss...) sketches to be strange. ralph and jim have been polite and informative on how i can try to obtain a set, and i hope i never came off as unappreciative of this whole 10th set venture. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on Jun 4th, 2004, 6:51pm on 06/04/04 at 18:05:12, normalbrains wrote:
Mr. Brains, I don't believe anyone would put you in the whiner category. You had a legitimate complaint/concern. I hope you were able to get a set for yourself. BFK |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by TerraFrost on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:07pm Quote:
why weren't the packs packed after we paid for them, so that those who paid the most would get the best? why didn't arai jin personalize ea. one of the cards, saying, on my cards, To TerraFrost - enjoy!, to motorcitymagic To motorcitymagic - enjoy!, etc? there are any number of ways that this could have been done differently, and i really so no point in considering all of them. and as others have said, i think the fact that the signed cards were on top is kinda a trivial one. as my first question kinda hints at, they could have packed them after the fact, too, if they wanted to. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:39pm Jim made a statement that the packs were sealed and the autograph was not visible. He made this statement to many of us, even Ralph. We all accepted that explaination at the time, but the truth of the matter flies in the face of it. Has this community become a pack of sheep that blindly put down their money? If a random eBay seller had made this false statement, we'd all be on his case. I appreciate the interesting opportunity that Jim presented us, but why did he say something that was not true? I am not saying the random distribution was the wrong way to go, I simply question why we weren't TOLD that the signature was visible on the top token? |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:40pm on 06/04/04 at 19:39:23, motorcitymagic wrote:
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:49pm on 06/04/04 at 19:39:23, motorcitymagic wrote:
Seems to me, the reason not to tell, is so he would not be inundated with people 'requesting', or in certain peoples cases, 'demanding', that particular packs be sent them. Jim already went out and did a big favour for everybody by getting these token packages and making them available to everybody. Why should he, or anybody else, have to receive a bunch of emails from people asking/demanding certain packages be sent to them for the funds that they paid. By stating that everything is random, there is no need to get needless emails, time-consuming questions, or what-not. This whole deal was plain and simple. 100 packs available. 1 of each pack will have a card signed, and 1 in each 10 packs will have a sketch. How much simplier does it need to be? If you don't like it, DONT BUY next time (if there is a next time anymore, which is more and more becoming highly unlikely due to this poor behavior of consistant complaining) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dragsamou on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:50pm Hi Members. Let's Have Jim Banish from Magic Rarities and Torture him at the same time for having offering Minagishi Tokens Only to Magic Rarities Members :D ;) ;D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:51pm on 06/04/04 at 19:50:04, dragsamou wrote:
And to make the torture real, banish him to be with MCM!!! :D 8) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:54pm on 06/04/04 at 19:50:04, dragsamou wrote:
I'll go along with whatever the majority decides. I'm just a sheep. :D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dragsamou on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:56pm on 06/04/04 at 19:51:04, silver.paladin wrote:
Strike ::) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dragsamou on Jun 4th, 2004, 7:57pm on 06/04/04 at 19:54:49, bigfatkitty wrote:
If my Minion turns into a Sheep which kind of Master I will be :'( LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.... |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on Jun 4th, 2004, 8:11pm Maybe the real issue is he's complained so much, he's alienated himself and he won't be able to trade for a signed set. I wonder if he has some sort of deal with WOTC that when he buys a box he gets to skip the random distribution. I wish I lived in MCM world! Here's a great sheep game. http://www.david-lewis.com/sheepgame/ A picture of me and my rarities friends. http://www.ics.uci.edu/~pazzani/4H/Sheep.gif |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on Jun 4th, 2004, 8:13pm on 06/04/04 at 19:54:49, bigfatkitty wrote:
Oh, so you are a sheep disguised as a cat. That explains so much more now :D I kinda remember a story about a sheep in wolves clothing (or is that vice a versa???) |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on Jun 4th, 2004, 8:22pm Please don't poison this thread anymore. My comments were designed to raise awareness among the group and get specific comments on my thoughts. If you want to keep bashing on me, do so here - http://magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=off-topic;action=display;num=1086372632 Ralph - I hope you'll do the favor of cleaning up this thread of any off-topic ramblings so people can get the information out of it. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by hammr7 on Jun 4th, 2004, 8:50pm Boy, after reading all this I have a question regarding the distribution! How come I didn't get my SHEEP tokens? ??? ;D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Cizzio on Jun 4th, 2004, 9:48pm I dont't see why u are fighting over rarities that everyone of u have... theese tokens can't be worth anything for the big collectors, since they all have them now, yes i ment u all forum-members! :D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by AXIOS on Jun 4th, 2004, 9:53pm on 06/04/04 at 21:48:37, Cizzio wrote:
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Thrond on Jun 5th, 2004, 12:03am I think we should report all this tread and its participants to ebay, Paypal, Bidpay, Crazy Clown, Yahoo.jp, FBI and CIA, for fraud and... stuff. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on Jun 5th, 2004, 1:04am on 06/05/04 at 00:03:00, Thrond wrote:
I think maybe you should be reported for wanting to make a report to so many agencies!! :D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by dragsamou on Jun 5th, 2004, 1:07am on 06/05/04 at 01:04:34, silver.paladin wrote:
Hi Silver. They are All in Paris at the Moment ;) ;D |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by gamingjim on Jun 5th, 2004, 3:04am on 06/04/04 at 15:03:48, motorcitymagic wrote:
Hi all First thing I would like to address is that there could have been a miscomunication when I wrote MCM. I thought he was asking me about the sketches. Here is exactly what I wrote this is from my email: “No. They are all randomly packed. I have not looked at them. You my get no pics or in the 10 packs you may get up to 10 (that would be a dam long odds) JIM” Now there may have be something written by Ralph that said the autographs were random. Once again I think there was a misunderstanding, which he meant the pictures were random with the autograph. When I got the sets they were all bagged and yes the autographed were in the front. Now if I open them to move the autograph and make it random that would not have been fair. I would then have seen all the sketches and that would not been fair to all the members. Also if I let every one pick what picture they wanted with autograph, it would have took for ever and the cost would have to be passed on to the forum members. Another thing you all need to know this deal was done very fast. I was doing at least 10 other things at the same time trying to get this deal, talking to Ralph so he could get it up on the page and trying to keep the public away from these sets. Now I am going to state for the last time (I hope) that we did this as upstanding as possible, we tried to give the lowest price possible, my daughter picked the packs at random for the members. We did not charge shipping to members. (Some did pay and we thank you for that) We really think that this was done as fair as possible. But if any members are still unhappy about their token sets, I would be very happy to give you a full refund on all the token sets that you bought from us and I will even pay the shipping back. I don’t want any member to feel robbed or cheated or scammed. So all you unhappy members please email ASAP to return you sets. We have many other members who would love them. Once again to the all members involved in this deal I apologize if we upset you with any mistakes and miscommunications. Thanks jim |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by normalbrains on Jun 5th, 2004, 3:12am jim please understand that noone (except mcm) thinks you did anything underhanded and everyone else appreciates what you did. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on Jun 5th, 2004, 5:16am MCM does not believe Jim did anything underhanded, but I think I would not have been responsible for me not to ask the questions. Jim - I appreciate that you've provided these to the members. I also respect that you took the time to answer the questions and clear up the misunderstanding - and did so by answering rationally rather than giving over to the wild emotions the other members have put into this. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by silver.paladin on Jun 5th, 2004, 5:35am on 06/05/04 at 05:16:34, motorcitymagic wrote:
I do not recall seeing any 'responsible questions' here, but rather a number of complaints, and judging by many of the other responses here, complaints is the only way that this was seen to be. Everybody on here that got a set, with one exception, was happy with what they received, at least publicly. You were the only one to post public complaints. Reading these few different related topics, as well as numerous PMs being sent around, the only 'wild emotions' happening here, are the people tired of the constant complaints, and rudeness. The complaints and rudeness is not just with this 10th Series tokens, but in many other postings, and there are quite a number of people tired of the rudeness (I'm gonna report this) or (this topic is already been spoken about here if you would take the time to look around) or (stop posting off-topic, there's another area for that). On the one bright note, at least you have given a number of international peoples a lot of fodder to play with, joke with and laugh about - all unintentional of course on your part - and gave them a common element to talk about and share things amongst themselves. I don't know of anyone else on here that has had a negative experience with this whole Jun Minagishi 10 Series, other than NormalBrains who was unable to buy a set before they sold out, but even he has expressed his disturbance/digust by these activities (welcome to the gang NBs!! :D) Hmm, stopping to think for a moment, there is another bright spot to all these - is lots of activity and posting today. Plenty to read and/or write, and enjoying other's public and private postings, and an electronic camaderieship of sort, for both good and ill. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by tah on Jun 7th, 2004, 9:16am on 06/05/04 at 03:04:13, gamingjim wrote:
I appreciate your efforts and I think this was best way this could have been handled. We all are used to random distribution methods already in boosters ;) And MCM, lets face couple facts. Considering you bought 10 sets and got not one but 3 sketches you should be very very happy in these circumstances. Considering those value in marketvise I suppose (don't know though) 2 Sketches > 3 Signed ones... Shouldn't be too hard to trade missing ones with thatkind tradeitems in your backpocket :-/ Edit:Grammar |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by motorcitymagic on Jun 7th, 2004, 4:51pm Of course I was very lucky in what I got. I have NO COMPLAINTS about that or the random process that was used. I had questions about some incorrect information (http://magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=news;action=display;num=1084746067;start=46#46) given to us at the beginning, and I wanted to see if anyone else had comments. Before you judge me, only read my posts (http://magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=;action=usersrecentposts;username=motorcitymagic), not everyone else's comments. My intent was misunderstood from the start. Of course, noone will admit they screwed up now, and its easier just to bash on me. If anyone else wants to bitch about me, do it in this thread (http://magiclibrary.net/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=off-topic;action=display;num=1086372632). |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by bigfatkitty on Jun 7th, 2004, 5:49pm "Most-loved"? I'll give you most infamous. |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series, Post by hammr7 on Jun 7th, 2004, 5:54pm MCM |
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Title: Re: Jun Minagishi tokens - 10th Series Post by Ralph Herold on Jun 7th, 2004, 6:47pm Thread closed. |
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