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(Message started by: fvzappa on Jun 10^th, 2004, 3:32am)

Title: Is there a market for these?
Post by fvzappa on Jun 10^th, 2004, 3:32am

We all probably have heard by now of the 3/3 elf, signed & altered by Richard Garfield. I was wondering if it ever exchanged hands, & what kind of value was placed on it?

The reason I inquire, is that I have a signed & altered Serra Angel. It says "Serra Angel, super", and is signed by RG. He also gave it first strike. Douglas Shuler signed it too. I can scan it if need be.

I guess the biggest detractor of the whole thing is (although it is not) it could be faked. But anyhow, any thoughts/ imputs/ maybe even trade offers would be of much use.

Title: Re: Is there a market for these?
Post by silver.paladin on Jun 10^th, 2004, 5:47am

There is probably always going to be those making the claim(s) of fake, some louder than others.

In my opinion, i could not and would not value these cards any higher than regular, and would most likely value it as less, as the card is not mint clean anymore.
It is just all too easy to fake a signature, if you can find someone who is good at it, and how do you prove that the card is an original altered card? Its not as if a person can just call up Richard and have him give a vocal "its good" - not to mention who would believe it was Richard anyways? :D

For your own frame of mind, you know it is real, and that is all that matters; and if you are happy about having an altered card like this, then really, why care about a value for it, because it should then be invaluable to you.

So, since this is an item that is so easy to fake (not like it needs to be re-created or anything), I would say value and even trade value would be minimal. If a card like this was given some kind of good value, would you not expect duplicates from a good forger to soon come out and devalue it?

Title: Re: Is there a market for these?
Post by Erl00 on Jun 10^th, 2004, 12:45pm

I tend to concur with Silver-Paladin. There are certainly some collectors who would pay perhaps $15 for this Serra (assuming it's not a Beta ;)) if they are sure it's signed and altered by Garfield.

Value of such a card is highly subjective.

I don't think there is a "market" for these altered cards.

Regards,
Eric.