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Are these real?
« on: May 19th, 2005, 8:40pm »
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I've looked at these a couple of days, and, i don't know about them
Are they real or can they be forged?
 
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Re: Are these real?
« Reply #1 on: May 19th, 2005, 8:45pm »
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I think the real question is, "are THESE real"?
 
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Really though, I have seen one before many years ago.  So, I would say real.
 
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« Reply #2 on: May 19th, 2005, 8:50pm »
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on May 19th, 2005, 8:45pm, fIaminio wrote:
I think the real question is, "are THESE real"?
 
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/videos/popeyes.html
 
 
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Really though, I have seen one before many years ago.  So, I would say real.
 
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Re: Are these real?
« Reply #3 on: May 19th, 2005, 8:59pm »
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Well from the scan it looks real enough. The thing I find suspicious is that the black in the art and the black used for text are printed at 2 different times, possibly on 2 different printers entirely. This is how you can end up with shifted text on a card without shifted black in the art (Gaea's Touch) and also why alpha/beta cards have 2 borders. For both to be completely out of black ink at the same time seems very unlikely.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25th, 2005, 12:22pm »
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What makes you think it's done on separate printers as opposed to having two printing plates stamp a sheet successively in the same machine?
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Re: Are these real?
« Reply #5 on: May 25th, 2005, 2:15pm »
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Nothing really, except probability. All the printers I've seen in my years going to a school with a large printing dept and also working for 18 months at Xerox, I have never seen a printer with 2 black drums. They either have the 4 color CMYK setup, or just black. Also, since it's common to see just the text offset on a card it leads me to believe that sheets are moved before text is applied.  However five color presses do exist, so it's entirely possible they're done all on one machine.
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« Reply #6 on: May 26th, 2005, 7:49pm »
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Have you considered the possibility that this could also be Alternate 4th?
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« Reply #7 on: May 26th, 2005, 10:32pm »
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on May 26th, 2005, 7:49pm, Tristal wrote:
Have you considered the possibility that this could also be Alternate 4th?

That is a distinct possibility.  I would say its impossible to say without more/better scans or holding the card, but some of the boxes and lines seem a bit off.
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