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I need fakes cards
« on: Jan 4th, 2005, 10:54pm » |
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I am looking for known fakes to play with for my FAQ on how fake cards. I will trade a reasonable amount for them. In particular I need examples of the following:
1. Mirrodin/8th edition cards that were posted about back in June
2. Mirrodin/8th edition foils from this set if they exist
3. Sealed packs of each set.
4. ANY fake foils.
5. A rebacked CE card.
6. ANY other professionally mass produced fake cards.
Please send any known info about their source, etc along with the cards.
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #1 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 6:22am » |
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I like fake cards too
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #2 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 9:20am » |
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I have copies of phoney Unlimited Gauntlet of Might and Icy Manipulator as keepsakes. They were produced in either upstate New York or Southern Ontario around 1996 or 1997. My guess is Rochester, NY, perhaps by someone with access to Kodak's labs. They aren't all that great if you have the real cards as comparison (or know what to look for), but at the time they fooled a number of people. They are whole cards, not something with a glued sheet like so many of the time.
I do know that all P9, and many second tier Unlimited cards were produced by the same group. A cache of the P9 were sold as real on eBay in 2001, and actually fooled a number of big dealers. The seller did refund all the money once the cards were determined to be frauds. The seller then tried to sell them as proxies ("proxies that fooled the experts") but disappeared from the eBay scene soon after.
When I get a chance I'll scan them for anyone who wants them.
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #3 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 11:18am » |
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Hi
I have a fake mirrodin booster (open) and might be able to get more seald ones. The guy who owns them (he got them in china $10 a box) also had foil cards. I`ll try to get some more.
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #4 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 11:54am » |
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THERE IS A GUY AROUND HERE THAT MAKES REAL GOOD FAKES I RUN INTO HIM AT THE PRERELEASES I COULD SEE IF HE CAN GIVE ME SOME INFO ON HOW THEY ARE MADE. HE HAD A REAL NICE SET OF FOILED POWER 9 AT THE LAST PRERELEASE
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #5 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 1:43pm » |
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on Jan 5th, 2005, 11:54am, sylvanstu wrote:
| THERE IS A GUY AROUND HERE THAT MAKES REAL GOOD FAKES I RUN INTO HIM AT THE PRERELEASES I COULD SEE IF HE CAN GIVE ME SOME INFO ON HOW THEY ARE MADE. HE HAD A REAL NICE SET OF FOILED POWER 9 AT THE LAST PRERELEASE |
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Is this the same guy that just sold a bunch of foil p9 on ebay?
I'd love to have one of these as a comparison piece.
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #6 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 1:49pm » |
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no different guy foils were great he wanted 100.00 for the set of 9
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #7 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 10:22pm » |
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i remember to all that i still need fake minaguishi to play with
u can still pm me 
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #8 on: Jan 5th, 2005, 10:29pm » |
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BTW, this is a standing offer. I'm never NOT going to need new fake cards.
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #9 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 3:11am » |
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I believe I have some of from the same batch (I got them in 2001 from some guy from NY via eBay). They are fairly good but to anyone who has seen the real thing they are pretty obvious fakes.
I have the following:
"Unlimited":
Black Lotus
Mox Jet
Mox Pearl
Ancestral Recall
Time Walk
Timetwister
Icy Manipulator (with crease from bend test)
"Beta":
Mox Emerald
If you are interested I would be willing to trade them. I have a scan of a real Ancestral recall next to the fake one if anyone wants to see a comparision.
on Jan 5th, 2005, 9:20am, hammr7 wrote:
I have copies of phoney Unlimited Gauntlet of Might and Icy Manipulator as keepsakes. They were produced in either upstate New York or Southern Ontario around 1996 or 1997. My guess is Rochester, NY, perhaps by someone with access to Kodak's labs. They aren't all that great if you have the real cards as comparison (or know what to look for), but at the time they fooled a number of people. They are whole cards, not something with a glued sheet like so many of the time.
I do know that all P9, and many second tier Unlimited cards were produced by the same group. A cache of the P9 were sold as real on eBay in 2001, and actually fooled a number of big dealers. The seller did refund all the money once the cards were determined to be frauds. The seller then tried to sell them as proxies ("proxies that fooled the experts") but disappeared from the eBay scene soon after.
When I get a chance I'll scan them for anyone who wants them. |
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #10 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 5:13am » |
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on Jan 6th, 2005, 3:11am, PegBoy wrote:
I believe I have some of from the same batch (I got them in 2001 from some guy from NY via eBay). They are fairly good but to anyone who has seen the real thing they are pretty obvious fakes.
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I have a camparison scan of a beta Ancestral Recall here:
http://www.apathyhouse.com/mtg/fake/recall.html
But since my friend had to return the card to get his refund, I no longer have it. I used to live in Rochester, NY, so it's likely this is all the same lot.
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #11 on: Jan 6th, 2005, 6:18am » |
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The fakes I have are all "Unlimited", and the one "Beta" (Mox Emerald) card I have does not have the 2 dots on the bottom like most real Betas. Maybe there are from a seperate lot, I don't know.
on Jan 6th, 2005, 5:13am, l0qii wrote:
I have a camparison scan of a beta Ancestral Recall here:
http://www.apathyhouse.com/mtg/fake/recall.html
But since my friend had to return the card to get his refund, I no longer have it. I used to live in Rochester, NY, so it's likely this is all the same lot.
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #12 on: Jan 7th, 2005, 3:55pm » |
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I've got a fake tooth and nail I got through MOTL somewhere, I'm not sure if it's from the packs of fakes or not. The only problems it has are a kind of waxy feeling and the colors of the back are off. The biggiest tel is that it's slightly smaller than a real card, maybe 1-2 mm on the top and side.
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #13 on: Jan 7th, 2005, 4:01pm » |
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When I receive these Charity Fellowship posters, I have yet to decide if I am going to keep them as posters, or design a cutter to cut it up.
If I do cut it up, then I suppose theoritically that I will have a complete set of Beta fakes (or will they be fakes, hmmmm).
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Re: I need fakes cards
« Reply #14 on: Jan 7th, 2005, 4:50pm » |
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on Jan 7th, 2005, 4:01pm, silver.paladin wrote:
When I receive these Charity Fellowship posters, I have yet to decide if I am going to keep them as posters, or design a cutter to cut it up.
If I do cut it up, then I suppose theoritically that I will have a complete set of Beta fakes (or will they be fakes, hmmmm). |
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The cards on the posters are actual size. heh. And they are a mix of alphas and betas. I think they have both alpha and beta for the the cards that were errors in alpha. I'd have to check my posters to be sure...
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