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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #15 on: Nov 6th, 2004, 3:09am » |
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #16 on: Nov 6th, 2004, 3:17am » |
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on Nov 6th, 2004, 2:55am, Cardhaus wrote:
A little common sense is needed here folks.
First off, you cannot tell if the Legends box you have is an "A" or "B" box by looking at the outside of the package. The small paper ticket is also on the inside of the box so that theory is out also. Since sealed boxes of older cards sell for quite a premium over loose packs it would not be in the best interest of the seller to open it to check the contents. Since last I checked, my distributor had been sold out of Legends cases since about 1994. Almost all the boxes left unopened are bought 1 or 2 at a time from private collectors so there is no way you can tell if they are A or B versions.
Instead of berating T&T here on the forum for an honest mistake, why don't you try and contact them about their typographical error in the listing of 145 cards.
From the Troll and Toad website:
How is this misleading? It states nothing but facts (other than the typo about the size of the set) as to what could be found in the packs and boxes they sell.
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That is a good point on the typo. And as to what could be found in the box, that is more on the edge. Reading it you could assume, if you did not know better, that you would get that card. "Buyer beware" is a good rule of thumb" and when writing advertising copy you tend to want to get people excited and not outright lie. The statement they use is factual, although it could be seen as misleading.
The ad copy could also have been written by someone who did not know the difference. And while ignorance is no excuse when selling an item, it could explain the mistakes.
As some have said on this site, T&T seem to have lost their expertise in MTG.
Pointing out the mistake and concern over the copy, and seeing what T&T's response is, would be a very good idea. Especially before anything inflamitory is said about the company in question.
I need to stop before I start sounding like an attorney and spewing facts about libel and slander and the difference between the two ... I almost went into law before sticking with just journalism 
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #17 on: Nov 6th, 2004, 3:23am » |
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I agree with Cardhaus. The fact that three booster boxes purchased from Troll & Toad did not contain any Mana Drain cards does not necessarily lead to the conclusion that the remaining booster boxes do not contain any Mana Drain cards as well. As long as Troll & Toad does not know exactly from which case their booster boxes origin and how they were positioned inside the case, they simply do not know themselves whether their booster boxes contain any Mana Drain cards. And even if they knew, they would not have to reveal this information from a legal point of view.
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #18 on: Nov 6th, 2004, 3:25am » |
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couldn't someone just post a review on the trollandtoad website and mention what's been mentioned here?
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #19 on: Nov 7th, 2004, 12:12am » |
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dont be naive. T&T know exactly where their boxes of legends came from and they know whether or not they contain drains.
id love to hear gaming jim expound on this issue.
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #20 on: Nov 7th, 2004, 12:22am » |
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on Nov 7th, 2004, 12:12am, normalbrains wrote:
dont be naive. T&T know exactly where their boxes of legends came from and they know whether or not they contain drains.
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Actually Jim stated in an earlier thread that they didn't bother searching/scanning their summer packs because there was no good reason for doing so, why would they bother with boxes containing 2-3 drains when they don't bother tampering with boosters potentially containing blue hurricanes?
The previous owners of the legends boxes might have known if they contained drains or not, but I really doubt TNT does.
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #21 on: Nov 7th, 2004, 12:43am » |
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on Nov 7th, 2004, 12:12am, normalbrains wrote:
dont be naive. T&T know exactly where their boxes of legends came from and they know whether or not they contain drains.
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Don't be silly, I would be stunned if they weren't second hand, and on top of that, third and fourth hand. And that they are mixed together.
I would be STUNNED if they were sitting there, still in original cases, being 'obvious'.
On top of that, 2 mana drains per box isn't that big of a deal when selling sealed product.
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #22 on: Nov 7th, 2004, 1:35am » |
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maybe ive overreacted. i have this thing with T&T. i dont like them
please forgive me.
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #23 on: Nov 7th, 2004, 7:49am » |
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I'm not happy with them right now either i bought some cards from them they never arrived. I e-mailed them to let them know, no answer. I e-mailed them again they said they would look into it then no answer. I e-mailed them again and they said it was thier policie to wait 3 months to straiten out theese maters.
WHAT so i wait til December to see what next is going to happen.
Til this i have had no problem with T+T, But i have not bought from them since and won't til i see how this goes down in December. 
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #24 on: Nov 7th, 2004, 8:25pm » |
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If I remember correctly, in a thread from a few weeks ago, several members reported not receiving cards, receiving cards from the wrong set, or the wrong condition. Perhaps if it were not for these previous bad experiences, we would be less suspicious.
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #25 on: Nov 10th, 2004, 4:25pm » |
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Did anyone at all catch the word "new"!?
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #26 on: Nov 11th, 2004, 5:20am » |
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considering their track record, I think I may begin ordering garbage from them and treat it like a repack.
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #27 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 4:29pm » |
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I was thinking of placing a big order with T&T, I usually buy at my local shop and justed starting buying online. Some of you guys seem like you are against them, but I heard they were the best. Any opinoins/advice?
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #28 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 6:10pm » |
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Except for one booster missing from a box I bought once (the box was slightly opened and it was gone. I was credited for the missing booster), I've never had a problem.
I've also never had a problem selling to them, which I have done quite a bit..
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Re: T&T's Bad Selling Practices
« Reply #29 on: Nov 17th, 2004, 6:34pm » |
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I know one of the employees well, & have started dealing with him/them in person. It is easier & I always get my cards...
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