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Ice Age on double card stock?
« on: Dec 4th, 2004, 11:14pm » |
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Hey all. I recently obtained an Ice Age Zur's Weirding. I have misplaced it for now, so I can't hold it while I describe it, but it is doubley thick. It doesn't bend normally and is shaped kind of weirdly around the edge's. Normally you would think it was a fake, but it doesn't prove itself very easily (except that it's abnormal). Also, it is a Zur's Weirding....
Any thoughts?
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 4th, 2004, 11:40pm » |
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It vote it is a fake.
Maybe someone made a print/copy and glued it on a real magic card back (a lot of people did that some years ago in my area).
If you doubt and still hope it is real, just make a good scan and post the link.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 13th, 2005, 4:42am » |
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I used to make good fakes, that were just doubled up like that, of things that werent cmpletely worth a lot. The idea was to keep the real card in my binder.
inocent idea.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 13th, 2005, 5:05am » |
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on Dec 4th, 2004, 11:40pm, rg wrote:
It vote it is a fake.
Maybe someone made a print/copy and glued it on a real magic card back (a lot of people did that some years ago in my area).
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I agree with rg. Back when I was playing, I used to take copies of all my beta Moxen and Lotus' on a really high end color copier and then cut and paste them on the back of revised land. It was close to looking like real, just a little too thick.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 13th, 2005, 4:45pm » |
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well, to back secretgiant up,
i have a pufferextract that is exactly the same.
xtra thich cardstock, little off color.
why the h*ll would someone fake a pufferextract?
i can make scans, but it's of no use, since you won't see the xtra thickness 
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #5 on: Jan 13th, 2005, 4:54pm » |
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on Jan 13th, 2005, 4:45pm, AXIOS wrote:
why the h*ll would someone fake a pufferextract?
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I could see making just about any card if it were needed as a proxy for a deck. Color printers are so common now and there are good card images available all over, so I could easily see someone making good looking proxies rather than writing on a land or sticking a piece of paper in a sleeve. Currently I'm proxying a Krark-Clan Grunts and an Arcbound Stinger for one deck, which makes Zur's Weirding or Puffer Extract look quite reasonable.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 13th, 2005, 5:36pm » |
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on Jan 13th, 2005, 5:05am, silver.paladin wrote:
I agree with rg. Back when I was playing, I used to take copies of all my beta Moxen and Lotus' on a really high end color copier and then cut and paste them on the back of revised land. It was close to looking like real, just a little too thick. |
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Hope those "Revised lands" weren't Summer  
I have a friend who claims that's exactly what happened to him years ago, and he did have some Summer actually !
On Topic: I agree that the card is probably a fake proxy made by gluing the copy onto another card, I used to do that too.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 13th, 2005, 6:01pm » |
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trust me, my puffer isn't a fake.
it passes the bend test with absolutely no problem......can color printers do that?
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 13th, 2005, 9:12pm » |
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on Jan 13th, 2005, 6:01pm, AXIOS wrote:
trust me, my puffer isn't a fake.
it passes the bend test with absolutely no problem......can color printers do that? |
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It seems quite possible for an extra-thick card to exist. Given all of the types of misprints that have surfaced I don't see any reason why there couldn't be Magic cards printed on the wrong cardstock. Carta Mundi certainly must have a variety of cardstock for their different printing needs, or their supplier could have messed up.
As far as fakes, I just glued some paper onto a card to test things out. The card didn't pass the bend test easily, but I think that I could with some careful work. I made one card using a glue stick on both the card and the paper that I was affixing and it got very, very close to passing. I got a couple little ripples in one spot (bending through the middle), but then trying a different area of the card (bending the upper portion) I was able to pass the bend test. I have a feeling that given the proper adhesive you could pass the bend test reliably. I'd want to try a variety of glues as well as rubber cement if I did more extensive testing.
Of course, with any of these methods you can see that there is something slightly odd with the layering of the card, and I suspect that in bright light the gloss of the card would not look proper. Real cardstock should look fine from the edge and have the proper gloss.
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Re: Ice Age on double card stock?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 18th, 2005, 12:32pm » |
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