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[eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sigs
« on: Apr 1st, 2005, 10:56pm » |
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Hello everybody,
First of all, I am still alive (if any of you wonders what I am becoming ...). Just completely swamped into an exhausting work project.
Second, this post aims at relaying a warning that Ed, aka notsofasteddie (member), mentioned me this afternoon. So a very special thanks to Ed for keeping his eyes opened.
So here's the big deal. There's this guy currently selling signed P9 APs on eBay:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjunsan00
Ed noticed that the signatures on the APs were more than suspicious. After a close look, I conclude that, effectively, they looked fake.
I have sent an e-mail to Amy Weber and Christopher Rush. Amy immediately answered and confirmed that "her" sig on the Time Walk AP was a fake. She has contacted the seller.
Just wanted to warn current and potentially future bidders from this forum.
Regards,
Eric.
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #1 on: Apr 1st, 2005, 11:18pm » |
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Indeed the Chris Rush signature looks nothing like Chris Rush's signature.
Actual signatures:
http://www.flatmatt.com/other/rarities/crushsigs.jpg
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #2 on: Apr 1st, 2005, 11:27pm » |
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The Frazier ones are BAD too. Poole's and Tedin's look better mainly because they are much more simpler ...
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #3 on: Apr 1st, 2005, 11:32pm » |
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Indeed I'm not commenting on any of those three, as Rush is the only one whose cards I actually have signed. Signature can change over time, but not like that.
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #4 on: Apr 1st, 2005, 11:39pm » |
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on Apr 1st, 2005, 11:32pm, flatmatt wrote:
| Indeed I'm not commenting on any of those three, as Rush is the only one whose cards I actually have signed. Signature can change over time, but not like that. |
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Matt, you can have a look at Christopher Rush's answer to my e-mail, received while I was writing the initial topic ...
Hello Eric,
That is most certainly a forgery of my signature.
What is also interesting, is that he has a beta proof
that he would have to forge a signature on. I'm not in
the habit of giving or selling proofs without
signatures on them for that very reason.
Someone worked hard to make the signature look
authentic, but there are too many variations from the
way I personally write it. The signature was written
by someone who is right-handed, while I am left
handed.
There is a small posiblility that the proof itself is
authentic, but it too could be a fake.
Christopher
You guessed right 
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Eric.
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #5 on: Apr 1st, 2005, 11:58pm » |
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They're so ridiculously evident fakes that they're not even a good try 
I can forge sigs much better than that (but don't tell anybody)
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #6 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:13am » |
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Wow, those artist and/or left-handed people know a lot about signatures. 
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #7 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:39am » |
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on Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:13am, flatmatt wrote:
| Wow, those artist and/or left-handed people know a lot about signatures. |
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some forummebers doesn't
someone with a name like a green small vegetable from these forums who was born in 1969  is bidding on one of these fake sigs.
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #8 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 1:27am » |
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on Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:39am, AXIOS wrote:
some forummebers doesn't
someone with a name like a green small vegetable from these forums who was born in 1969 is bidding on one of these fake sigs. |
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Yeah, but he got rich with all his Mox Crystals, he can afford it anyway 
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #9 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 9:25am » |
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on Apr 2nd, 2005, 12:39am, AXIOS wrote:
some forummebers doesn't
someone with a name like a green small vegetable from these forums who was born in 1969 is bidding on one of these fake sigs. |
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I wondered about the sig and placed a lets "watch it " bid.
I often do that. but I retracted as I think that it was a little high in the end 
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #10 on: Apr 2nd, 2005, 7:58pm » |
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Meh, I'm bidding 10$ on the ruby 'cause it's purdy, and will make a nice proxie ^_^
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #11 on: Apr 3rd, 2005, 1:52am » |
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Of course, even with fake sigs, they still look like APs ... and I have seen people paying more than $50 for P9 proxies ... So a let's watch it bid which ends being a winning bid is not that bad.
Eric.
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #12 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 9:28am » |
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Ok, the guy has retracted his P9 APs auctions but has listed new auctions for APs from Mark Tedin and Anson Maddocks.
What do you guys think about the sigs on these ones?
Regards,
Eric.
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #13 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 6:13pm » |
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on Apr 5th, 2005, 9:28am, Erl00 wrote:
Ok, the guy has retracted his P9 APs auctions but has listed new auctions for APs from Mark Tedin and Anson Maddocks.
What do you guys think about the sigs on these ones?
Regards,
Eric.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZjunsan00
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Well, his (Tedin's) sig on my CH City of Brass looks different, but i can't tell for sure...
Since i have never seen Anson's Sig, i can't really tell...
Oh, Eric, Check your PMs...
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Re: [eBay] Warning: P9 Artist Proofs with FAKE sig
« Reply #14 on: Apr 5th, 2005, 7:30pm » |
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I have EXTREME doubts about the authenticity of the Tedin sigs. They have the "forced" look, like someone was trying to write the name. Totally missing the natural flow and rhythm that you get when you write your own name over time.
I wouldn't and won't go near them.
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