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silver.paladin
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #1 on: Jan 21st, 2004, 5:58pm » |
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I had noticed this seller's auctions last night, and was wondering myself if every single one of those cards will be fakes.
Its just amazing how many Minagishi's are appearing lately - though most of the sellers are normally from Singapore (hmm, wonder what percentage of those are fakes), and this guy is from Italy - so I am kind of betting all the cards are fakes, but the seller does not realize it - at least not with his rep.
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #2 on: Jan 21st, 2004, 7:54pm » |
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his rep sucks check his feedback ripping people off and returning alot of money
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #3 on: Jan 21st, 2004, 8:10pm » |
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on Jan 21st, 2004, 5:18pm, dragsamou wrote:
Hi Members.
Have a look at that  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=218&item= 3171082983
Ralph.
I have contacted the Seller to find out about this Imitation.I will probably get this Extra one as well 
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Could this be another case of a good seller turned bad?
He's had over 2000 positives and his feedback rating is over 98%. This is the kind of guy I've taken a chance on in the past and have had success. He seems to sell a lot of Pokeman and Italian Magic cards. As far as that goes, I'm fine.
But these Minagishi's and one of them being a Wurm token. I can't possibly believe they're real. Maybe whatever dealer he's gotten his Pokeman product from has passed on some of the fake cards we've been seeing lately out of southeast Asia. Who knows?
I for one am gonna pass. 
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #4 on: Jan 21st, 2004, 8:11pm » |
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If the Wurm token turns out to be real, I'll crap my pants.
(Oops! Too late.  )
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #5 on: Jan 21st, 2004, 11:04pm » |
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I recently bought my first Minagishi token:
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168367405&cat egory=19115&rd=1
As there are some experts here how do i know if it's a fake or not?
(I thought there had been a topic by bigfatkitty? but i can not find it.)
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #6 on: Jan 21st, 2004, 11:47pm » |
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on Jan 21st, 2004, 11:04pm, rg wrote:
I recently bought my first Minagishi token:http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168367405&cat egory=19115&rd=1
As there are some experts here how do i know if it's a fake or not?
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I believe that thread was in regards to an eBay auction. All those eBay threads got burned to a crisp by Ralph in the last round of thread deletions.
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #7 on: Jan 22nd, 2004, 12:12am » |
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on Jan 21st, 2004, 11:04pm, rg wrote:
I recently bought my first Minagishi token:http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168367405&cat egory=19115&rd=1
As there are some experts here how do i know if it's a fake or not?
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We can always go over it again.
You can't tell from the Ebay picture because most likely, it's an image from here. Once you get it, you can scan a picture for us and if it's blatantly obvious we can tell. The real test is looking at it in person, the feel of the card and the card stock, but that's true with most things.
In the future, most of the fake Minagishi's I've run across have a Singapore origin. That doesn't mean yours is bad but you never know.
Also, the guy's rating is low (5) and only one of those comes from an actual sale. At least if it is fake you only spent $6.
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #8 on: Jan 22nd, 2004, 12:54am » |
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on Jan 21st, 2004, 11:04pm, rg wrote:
I recently bought my first Minagishi token:http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3168367405&cat egory=19115&rd=1
As there are some experts here how do i know if it's a fake or not?
(I thought there had been a topic by bigfatkitty? but i can not find it.) |
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I would agree in principle with FatKitty. If the seller is from Singapore, the odds seem to be against you - you will be getting a fake.
If you would have followed the Jun Ebay auctions over the past year or two, you will notice that the Jun auctions only came up every now and then. For about the last 5-8 months, there have been hordes of Jun cards on Ebay, and I would say almost 95% are sellers from Singapore - don't even worry about other parts of Asia, Singapore is where they are all coming from it seems.
Angels seem to be the big market right now. A few months ago, it was the 5-Goblins/Zombies that were being sold en-mass.
Myself, I stopped buying Minagishi tokens now, because you cannot tell if you are getting fakes or not just from the Ebay auctions - and Ebay/PayPal will refund you any money on a fake - less a $25 fee. And seeing as how the majority of these cards are selling for less than that - you will not get any money back.
Personally, I would suggest you console yourself right now in thinking that you lost $6 + S&H - but, if somehow you end up with a real card - lucky you!
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #9 on: Jan 22nd, 2004, 1:43am » |
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you are right $6 are no great loss 
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Front: feels like high gloss postcard (alike french shop tokens)
back: dull, feels and looks like gameingetc tokens series 1
width: exactly like a normal magic card
hight: about 1mm longer than a normal magic card
thickness: exactly like normal magic card
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #10 on: Jan 22nd, 2004, 12:16pm » |
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From the scan and description, I'd say this card looks real.
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI...THE WURM RETURN
« Reply #12 on: Jan 22nd, 2004, 1:17pm » |
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Thanks for your help!
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Re: FAKE MINAGISHI - More ?
« Reply #13 on: Jan 22nd, 2004, 4:39pm » |
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Wowzers - another 10 Angel tokens on Ebay, all being sold by one person located - where else - Singapore.
I am starting to wonder if it might be worth while finding someone with a good high quality printing press, and making a few sheets of this card myself to sell.
What is it? Approx 77 cards per sheet and Angels are selling for approx $40 each or higher - hmmm, over $3000 per sheet. Maybe this is how money is meant to be made on Ebay.
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